Since the pads are significantly bigger than the S197 4-piston Brembos, are the pad recommendations equivalent or is there a 1 to 2 level difference? I'm convinced that buying the 4-piston break kit would have been perfect for my driving style, however, like a kid in a candy store I had to have the 6-piston brake kit. ... so other than installing the big brakes and high-performance brake lines, there’s no additional work. I'm happy with my choice. So I just ordered 6 piston brembo setup from a hellcat. A race car is going to need a different type of brake then a van. The calipers for the new rotors are different and believe the spindles will be different too. 3. mono-block . The pedal feel is supposed to be harder and "better" in a 4 piston setup. Big Brake Kits - 4 Piston Kits, 6 Piston Kits for Audi, Volkswagen VW, BMW & Porsche Vehicles ... such as a Brembo or Stoptech brake kit, and brake components for Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche. As mentioned, upgrading the pads might get you the edge you want if you track it. A friend of mine has the wilwood 6 piston/front and wilwood 4 piston/back. 1. They are more than enough. I just don't want to waste 4 grand on something that I wouldn't see a real difference in unless I was on the track. You do the math! 2006 QSM M6 built last week of production VMR v705 staggered on RE760s swede speed OTRCAI no tune CTS v2 6 piston & 4 piston brakes. The 6's look nicer but it's a much higher cost along with the maintence along with it. and while they are great brakes the only flaw for some(me included) is the initial brake bite when pressed? Demon and now the Super Stock use a special 4-piston system and different than 1320, they use a unique aluminum caliper and 2-piece rotor, 1320 uses standard Scat Pack 4-piston. I picked up a good set used for a good price too. All 4 Calipers, Front and rear set of Ceramic Power Stop Evolution Brake Pads, and pin hardware kits . Where's the evidence of the larger rotor being lighter. Like the title says, ive figured out a way to bolt on 15 inch 6 piston brembo brakes on to stock drum spindles and drum hubs on the 64 through 74 mopars. Gang, I made a boo boo when I bought a set of gold Brembo's (4 piston front, 2 piston rear) that I thought were from a 2004 STI but ended up being from a 2005+ model instead. My Codes have about 15% more piston area as compared to Elixirs. I have 18" wheels so anything will fit. TBM Brake’s range of optimized 4-piston calipers has proven to be the choice of champions and record breakers. This makes the new components fully interchangeable with the GT kits, allowing them to fit under the same size wheels and accommodate the same size rotors while providing increased performance. The stock brakes on the Mustang GT are 4 piston Brembos minus the fancy painted caliper or markings. I track 8 to 10 days a year and abuse the 302's brakes pretty hard. 4 pot calipers . They should be a couple pounds lighter than the smaller fully cast iron units... and more than offset a bigger caliper. I think 4 piston Brembo would be still awesome on track. 1990 Honda CRX Si 1994 Honda Civic EX 2019 Ford Mustang Bullitt K1912 Magneride, Recaros, Electronics pkg BMR Magneride Springs, CB005 Cradle Lock Out Steeda Camber Plates Vorshlag Front Brake Deflectors Gorilla Extended Length Neo Chrome Lug Nuts OPMustang Extended Length Front Studs, 25MM Front Spacers HPDE/Autox SVE GT7 19X11 … More or less. Thanks for all the input guys, I just wanted to make sure I was choosing what would be best for me and not the cheaper option. There are a bunch of kits out there from the 4 piston/12.19" rotor setup, to the 6 piston/12.19" setup, to the 6 piston/12.88" rotor … For the most part I would be driving it around like a normal person but I might add a supercharger later down the road. 2. If so are we talking inches or feet? Are you driving it around town like a normal person? If you track regularly, you probably knew about the benefit of 6 piston vs. 4 piston, so I would think you are not track junkie, so I would say stick with 4 piston, which will give you more than enough stopping power. i'd say that for your purposes the 4pot should be more than enough and chances are you'll never use even 1/2 of their potential if you're just commuting with the car. The more pistons you have to move the harder it can be to stop , we swapped from single piston front & drum rear on a friends car to 20 pistons 6 each front & 4 each rear , drum brakes stop better , the next step is hydro boost to get enough assist to work with 20 pistons The result is a braking system capable of combining supercar performance, off road stamina, comfort and great looks. Ford Racing GT500 6 piston brake kit M-2300-T VS Roush/stoptech 4 Piston. Sure it's a heavier rotor but being a 2pc design it's not by much. In this case, more is not better. in this video i compare my stock Acura RSX single pstion brakes against 4 piston Brembo … I think 4 piston Brembo would be still awesome on track. And to be quite honest my car stops better than his. TBM Brakes focuses on engineering outstanding 4-piston calipersthat have a higher specific torque output and rigidity than any comparable 6-piston design. As the title suggest, looking for opinions on Wilwood brake setups for my '67 Camaro (currently 4 wheel drums). Plus a matching Rear 4 piston set . Both pairs are Silver in Color. Then I found out you can buy the 6 brembo package from Chevy. 6 piston. The monoblock machined 4-piston caliper is made of an oxidized aluminum alloy and weighs less than 1 kg at the rear (with piston diameter of 26-28 mm) and about 1.2 kg at the front (with piston diameter 30-36 mm). 6-8 pot calipers. Basic answer- cars are different. After some searching, I'm not sure anybody is actually running the large 6-piston/4-piston Wilwood option on an 818 R or S yet. Duralife&trade. If we're talking a few thousand bucks for a few inches it's not worth it, but gaining a few feet I'd bite. First question: I've been autocrossing my MkII roadster for almost 10 years on stock brakes and it is time for an upgrade. I personally went with 4 piston. 6 piston Brembo brake setup Discussion in 'Suspension and Brakes' started by JeremyAlan, Feb 13, 2014. Won't stop any shorter, 6pots are more for track use as the two peice Rotor helps dramatically with wheel bearings temps, also as well as the rotor being bigger you have more heat capacity. I had 13", 6-piston fronts on my Roadster for some autox and two track days and I loved them. Does it make the car stop any shorter? Looking ahead, I have a set of S550 GT PP Brembo calipers that I will install as soon as I get my second set of Apex wheels - for next season. 4 Pot calipers means that the brake calipers are holding 4 pistons. Need to hear from someone who has used both without power booster. Local Time: 1:25 AM. Im going to go with the 4 piston brakes it sounds like the better set up for me. The is absolutely no brake fade. Thanks for that input! I have had the baer 13" 6 piston set up with 2pc rotors and I can tell you without a doubt my 4 piston 14" brembo kit is much better. Don't forget, you also get bigger (14.6") two piece rotors. He told me the front passenger or driver side wouldn't work with the car. I had the same question when I ordered mine. As the World’s leader of racing brake systems, Brembo Racing have an extensive range of calipers to suit your application and vehicle. I wouldn't make it as absolute as the first reply post. I’ve got the new XT 2 piston brakes on my all mountain bike and love them (powerful, great one finger lever feel). They were easy to modulate with an aftermarket manual master cylinder, and they had no problem at Auto … In my opinion the brembos are the best brakes out there. The FFR red car pictures show the 4-piston. Page 2 of 4 < Prev 1 2 3 ... That's more than enough brakes for what you're doing and what your car is capable of. Keep the 4 pots and if later you need buy the 6 pots then you can sell the 4pots to v6 or I4 Camaro owners. The pads can be correspondingly bigger. Strong, responsive, and a wide availability of pad materials out there.. Im going with a 2SS 6 speed manual with the dual mode exhaust and magnetic ride control and a few other options. Hawaii. I'm also going to upgrade the rear rotor to a two-piece unit, I'll keep the stock size and caliper though. Includes Pin hardware Kits for both! Can't speak for the performance between the two but from the stock to 4 pistons was a nice improvement. While I agree with others, it's about what you're looking for in a car. that's a good thing, by the way! Brembo Brakes 4 Piston So I have a 2014 camaro LS and wanting to put the Brembo brakes on it due to it being an inheritance from my father that wanted those brakes on them. The new six-piston M6 calipers and four-piston M4 are derived from the current Brembo Gran Turismo (GT) performance caliper family. I haven't seen the specs for the gen 6 Camaro 4 and 6 pot callipers, but for example, the gen 5 6 pot callipers had a slightly smaller total piston area than the 4 pots, despite the extra pistons. But I loved the 73 single swap into my 71 so much, I'd never think of doing the 4 piston. I found a good deal on the Front M755, old 4 piston design, but was curious what you all felt about the differences. My biggest problem is that I don't know how much/if any track time the car will see. Front Pair of brand new Authentic GM original Cadillac CTS-V Brembo 6 piston monster front calipers. in this video i compare my stock Acura RSX single pstion brakes against 4 piston Brembo brake kit. Rotors coupled with a 84% increase in brake pad area and a 42% increase in rotor area to increase system thermal capacity. The Brembo recipe includes high-energy 6 piston pillar calipers at the front and 4-piston versions at the rear respectively coupled with 380 mm and 350 mm discs. does the 6 piston get rid of that completely? I wouldn't waste your time or money for a daily driver. This reduces the force required at the brake lever in order to obtain the same braking force as applied with the original 2 piston calipers. Well I'd definitely pay for better, shorter, daily driving stopping distance. The GMC Performance Front 6-Piston Brembo Brake Upgrade System features red Brembo®. BC Racing Coilovers. This was to compensate for the added torque of the larger rotor without upsetting the front to rear brake balance. Both of those are brembos off a gt500 Shelby. The 4 piston conversion on the Strom, with no other modifications, will increase the force applied to the pads by increasing the surface area of the pistons compared to the 2 piston calipers. Brake service likely means they'll put new pads on only. So did you have the 4 piston Before upgrading to 6 piston? General reply: About 2015/05 I did the 6-piston fronts and 4-piston rear brembo upgrade on my 2014SS. I have the 6 piston package and wouldn't have it any other way - but I love a good immediate and solid brake pedal. Here's my question. Came of a 15 hellcat with 10k miles. The 4 piston bit is not that important, TBH. I was super bummed when I measured the lug pattern and discovered this. 4 piston. I may bring it to a drag strip here or there just for some fun since my friends organize meets. I have 6 piston Brembos on my SRT but that's a bigger car: it probably needs it. I run the Brembo 4 piston on the front of my car, and the cobra setup on the back. I'm not sure a leaner car like the Camaro really "needs" 6 piston calipers. I've had 4 piston Brembo's on 5 cars now and they are great. The 4 piston brakes stop better than the M4 with the 9000$ brake upgrade. Ford doesn’t market it that way because you possibly wouldn’t opt for the Performance Pack with 6 piston Brembos. it seems like most of the input here is subjective. All the reviews you'll see are with the 4 pistons. Its the difference in total piston area that makes the difference in power. Biggest is the 15 inch 6 piston setup, next size down is the 14 inch 4 piston. I wouldn't make it as absolute as the first reply post. I bet I got 150,000 out of the used single calipers I put on in 83 or so. Brake manufacturers tend to make their more powerful brakes with 4 pistons. Personalising the design and adapting to your specific needs, Brembo racing caliper are available in a forged or billet construction, with 2, 4 or 6 pistons and fixed or mobile bridge. First lets look at some basic terminology. Guess these cars not getting any lighter so they're making this move. Fetus cam 212/217 .585 lift 114 LSA. Well I've decided that before go faster mods there needs to be top of the line stopping. These 4 piston Brembos are pretty impresive. If it won't sacrifice reliability or lifespan(6 piston upgrade last as long as stock?) A larger diameter rotor will contribute to higher braking power...if the tires aren't at their maximum braking adhesion level. Many have logged in the ridiculous cost of brakes on these 6 piston Brembos. I think you pay more if you buy with dealer installed and don't keep the 4 pots to begin with. He is just trying to get a bigger comission, unless you are tracking which is unlikely in montreal it is a waste of money. I got parts used for 1500.00 all warranted to be in good shape. Are you taking it to the track? I have two questions for some of the resident autocrossers. 2SS Nightfall Grey /Adrenaline red interior. Like others have mentioned above, 6 piston is a great option for serious track use - that doesn't mean 4 piston won't be good for track. similar to how I buy top dollar tires because I don't want to be in the ditch or in someone's back end, regretting not paying the extra couple hundred bucks for good rubber that could've avoided the situation. Keep in mind that, most of the brembo 6-piston brembo caliper upgrade information in the parts listed is also not made for an SS. http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...arts/2016.html. Never had a piston seize. I read and researched on and off about a year prior to doing the brembo install. To answer your questions, yes you have four wheel discs with pads: no brake shoes on your car. 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